Marc Lamont Hill vs. Ann Coulter on Larry King Live – Dr. Marc Lamont Hill
Marc Lamont Hill is the Steve Charles Professor of Media, Cities, and MSNBC Host: Trump Won't Budge So That Ann Coulter Won't Call Him 'A Weenie' Kate Beckinsale Checkmates Fan Shaming Her For Pete Davidson Dating Rumors. Last night, I squared off with Ann Coulter on Larry King Live. Although we agreed on very little --we discussed the 9/11 Mosque, immigration. KING: Ann Coulter and Marc Lamont Hill face off, right versus left. .. O' DONNELL: One of my first dates with a witch was on a satanic altar and.
I'm not making this stuff up. I know what they told me they do. What were they doing? I want to hear about this. One of my first dates with a witch was on a satanic altar and I didn't know it. But it -- she wasn't running for Senate then. She was on "Politically Incorrect. She was a witch then. I mean the day of the election I was telling friends, I'm sort of glad I don't have to take a position on this because she's great. Castle, her opponent, the establishment Republican who only votes with Republicans about 40 percent of the time.
Who would have won. We don't know actually. Because of the Tea Party movement in the end. I think he might -- I think his chances of winning were not as strong as people said. The night she won, I came home and I saw everything, I'm so happy. I realized that deep in my heart I was for Christine O'Donnell. Look, in the Senate it's not as important a job as being a governor or even a mayor, which is why somebody like Dianne Feinstein or, you know, Giuliani, you know how politics is.
Senators, there are a lot of dumb senators. All they have to do is vote. Giuliani isn't a senator? No, I'm saying by contrast that is a serious job to have to run for president.
You've been doing so well for about 10 seconds. You know, don't talk about Christine O'Donnell, but she would definitely -- you don't need to be smart to be a senator is my point. All you do is vote. She will definitely vote right and I have to tell you just one more quick point. One of my -- HILL: She's not as stupid as the stupidest person. That's actually your argument for why she's OK.
And yes, we're not making fun -- KING: To be featured on "Family Guy. Can Sarah Palin moderate please? I spent a little bit of time with Sarah Palin. I didn't get that from her. I can't speak to her IQ but at least her knowledge with the issues was very, very low, embarrassingly low.
She's been raising kids in Alaska, running Wasilla, running the state. You know, I mean, this -- that's the problem. That's why she shouldn't be running for national office. I don't -- well, she isn't. But we're talking about her, that's how smart she is. And then the issue with O'Donnell is the same thing. I don't think she's that bright. But most importantly I don't think she's that qualified. But she's totally qualified.
And if I had brought her out to you as a potential candidate, you would have said hell no. There was no way you would have wanted her as a potential GOP candidate.
Marc Lamont Hill vs. Ann Coulter on Larry King Live
I might have run her in a different state than Delaware. But I actually she does have a chance to win. And one of my -- HILL: I think so, too.
Libertarian doesn't care about the social issues, just wants his tax cuts friends. Told me years ago that given a choice between Republicans both say they're going to cut your taxes, one pro- life, one pro-choice, he will always vote for the pro-lifer because you can only trust pro-lifers to cut your taxes. So I think you can trust Christine O'Donnell to vote right. If you don't care about the social good, you're absolutely correct.
Let them eat cake. She cares about the social issues and cares about people but she'll do a lot more for people. Now let him get a word. I think it's -- KING: Don't let him -- don't dominate. I think -- she does this to me, it's very hurtful.
I think it's a very sad moment when that's how low our bar is, that someone like that could be running for the Senate. And I think that -- firstly, I jumped up and down, too, for joy when she won because I said this is something the Democrats can now win.
But I think it also shows again that the Tea Party is beginning to influence these elections in ways that are very interesting, whether it's a Pledge to America, whether -- KING: How did your side get put on the defensive?
Well, first of all, we began from a bad position. When we began -- first of all the Obama administration started with this health care stuff, which I thought was very smart.
I thought it was OK to start with health care as a major policy initiative for the White House. But we had the political capital. We had the momentum. And instead of the White House producing a document that was useful that the American people could respond to, we give it to Pelosi and Reid. I think that was the unwise move.
And then we set out going around town hall meetings unprepared, embarrassing ourselves.
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And I think that we made a very bad start to something and it put us in a defensive position that allowed the Tea Party right-wing nut jobs to emerge. Speaking of Christine, "Saturday Night Live" kicked off its new season this past weekend.
Included on the comedy agenda, in fact, it began the program, a parody of Mrs. This race is going to tighten up and when it does it's going to be a real dogfight. You need to understand that. Look, please don't try to tell me about dogfight, OK? I know all about dogfights. For your information, gentlemen, I used to run a business staging dogfights.
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Dogfights, like Michael Vick? Much better than Michael Vick's. I have been to Michael Vick's dogfights. We'll be back with more. What a great country, huh?
They may be announcing marital plans soon. Would that be great? That could soothe America. Is it going to be a sweep this fall? I don't think so. First, I think Ann is right about the Senate. Because off-year all the incumbent party always loses. Bush picked up seats, I can tell you for sure we're not going to pick up any seats but in the House, I think we're not going to lose as much ground as people think. In fact I think Democrats have overstated the loss so that it will look like we had a lot of momentum after November.
You think this will bring you Democratic momentum? Well, I don't think preaching gloom and doom is the best thing to do.
I prefer if we spend time celebrating our victories. There have been victories over the last two years, but we spent so much time counting the losses, that again we're playing defense all the time.
We've done some major stuff here, we need to celebrate that. And if we do that we win. People hate health care. I hope Democrats are listening to you. But very -- KING: Remember, money is not the most important thing, health is 3 percent. There has never been less than a majority since health care has passed that has not favored repeal. In other words, a majority has favored repeal since it passed.
Right now it's like 60 percent. The Democrats thought, as usually happened, well, you know, once we get it past, oh, the people will love it. The people do not love it so that's why they are not talking about health care. But also every major study of health care also shows that when you go bit by bit, point by point of the benefits of universal health care reform, people like the stuff. Who's reading what the benefits are, too?
That's now covered for children.
You think that's bad? The people like that. I think it's madness. You don't buy insurance for your house after your house has built down -- burned down. Look, there are people -- KING: For a kid with cancer should die? Under a free market system, people would be able to buy insurance without having to pay half. What if you can't? What if you can't buy it? Your 3-year-old kid with cancer and we can't afford it. Democrats have screwed up the system. Cancer is a very bad example and I'm answering you.
It's a major disease. In a free market system they would already have insurance. Last time I checked, cancer is a major disease.
But -- no, look. Let make the argument you're trying to make it which is -- KING: I can make it. If it's cancer it's a very bad. If you've set up a system where the only way you can buy insurance for your house is if you also insure the White House and the fire house and the police house and the mosque down the road, fewer people will have insurance for their homes.
That's the system we have now. So our current system has 48 million uninsured. Look, the pre-existing conditions people are worried about are the ones where someone is born just lost a lottery. They're born with a child with spina bifida or whatever.
Those are few enough cases you're talking about. Probably fewer, I mean, all of the cases like that. You're talking about fewer than probably 2 percent of the cases. Let's say it's 10 percent. Set up a system, everyone in America would be in favor of paying for those people. I can start with that. Cut out the Department of Education, cut out the Department of Commerce, all of which do nothing, and pay for those people.
Those are all -- that's absurd. But you don't wreck the entire free market system. You pay for cutting out the Pentagon? I think it's the only thing Ann would agree to keep probably.
But here is the issue. First of all, all this is beside the point. We're simply that the American people are not against health care reform. What they are -- they have fatigue from the process. They are against many people on the left who are against these multinational corporations getting billions of dollars streamed into it because of health care.
That is a big proposal in Congress. That you can't take any tax break if you send the work overseas which now gets a break. Why do Republicans oppose it? I have no idea what this bill is, so I can't comment on it. Because it's proposed from the left, that's why. This is a -- and this is what happens constantly, whether it's cap and trade, whether it's this proposal.
Oftentimes, bills that are actually free market oriented and bills that actually had come from the right, when they get caught by the left, suddenly Republicans don't like them anymore.
No, that's not true. You're going to have to give me one I've read. Cap and trade is free market? You've got to be kidding?
Cap and trade is absolutely free market oriented. It's much more free market oriented than any other sort of organic left wing proposal.
A hidden tax, everyone's electricity bill will go through the roof to fight an imaginary phenomena, global warming. She doesn't believe in global warming. Either does your father. Check with LA today on global warming. By the way, I'm fading now into the scenery. Talk about my father. My father believe in dinosaurs. Oh, he believes in dinosaurs. What does his father have to do with it? I'm -- this is another right-wing -- this is what right wingers do.
They throw things out to confuse us, Larry. No, I just happen to know that his father is a very sensible man and if he's going to bring up this crazy thing about she doesn't believe in global warming -- HILL: Most Americans don't believe it and including your very sensible father.
The point is that five years ago, the Republicans were talking about cap and trade, they're proposing cap and trade, they're proposing more market-based solutions to these problems. We were not proposing cap and trade. And Democrats suddenly offered this stuff and suddenly they don't like it anymore.
And over the last two or three years, we've seen proposal after proposal after proposal, whether it's a small business plan being offered by Obama recently, whatever it's education reform, whatever Democrats offer, Republicans are postured to just say no.
It's -- it's the most unpatriotic, un-democratic thing. Look, I'm say no to that. No, that is not true. She's praising your father because she's got to be good to our future father-in-law. You have ruined my streak, here.
Have -- marry Ann Coulter on national television. Ann, want to do it here? If you perform the ceremony. If only I was a rabbi. Ann recently said that Sarah Palin has more influence than the president. Before we get to other issues, let's talk about Sarah Palin. Didn't you say she's more influential than the president? My point -- the question was, is she going to run for president? And I said -- this is like asking if Rush Limbaugh is going to run for president.
She's having a lot of fun having massive influence, making money. Why would either of them run for president?
They'd lose their influence, lose the money, lose the ability -- HILL: And lose the election. Let's -- they'd lose the election. A poll came out today, unfavorables at 42, 43 percent, higher than everyone else in the poll.
That's pretty close to your President Obama. She was at the -- she was at the favorables with momentum. What she's saying is, if it's Palin versus Obama, nobody votes? Solidarity demands that we no longer allow politicians or political parties to remain silent on the question of Palestine. We can no longer in particular allow the political left to remain radical or even progressive on every issue from the environment to war to the economy.Coulter and Marc Lamont Hill Go Head-to-Head Over Who Can Say 'N-Word,' Results Might Surprise You
To remain progressive on every issue except for Palestine. Contrary to Western mythology, Black resistance to American apartheid did not come purely through Gandhi and nonviolence. Rather, slave revolts and self-defense and tactics otherwise divergent from Dr. King or Mahatma Gandhi were equally important to preserving safety and attaining freedom.
We must allow—if we are to operate in true solidarity with Palestinian people, we must allow the Palestinian people the same range of opportunity and political possibility. If we are standing in solidarity with the Palestinian people, we must recognize the right of an occupied people to defend itself.
We must prioritize peace. But we must not romanticize or fetishize it. We must advocate and promote nonviolence at every opportunity, but we cannot endorse a narrow politics of respectability that shames Palestinians for resisting, for refusing to do nothing in the fact of state violence and ethnic cleansing. Thanks for the memories. September 28, at 2: As for Palin getting more attention than the President, Ann fails to realize that other substandard individuals and celebrities Lindsay Lohan, Lil Wayne, Britney Spears, etc.
Palin is far from alone. On the other hand, great debate. September 29, at 1: Being a black man in america has nothing to do with same-sex marriage. FYI Marc, most black people in America have christian beliefs. We believe that marriage should be between a male and a female.
That is how life is created. That is how a healthy family is made. It has nothing to do with civil rights. Now you guys want to compare the civil rights movement of blacks and replace black with gay.
You may not respect the meaning marriage, but us black folks still do. September 29, at 5: I must say that Ann has calmed down quite a bit. I remember her as a venomous snake just waiting to strike.
But this was a civilized conversation without all the in-your-face type of talk. You were right on with your points and data to back up your statements. October 1, at